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  All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century

  by maccauk11 in

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  all things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.

  the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .

  the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.

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  What I've never understood about the gospels is that Peter, John, Simon, et al., never had to take anything Jesus said "on faith." When Jesus told the waters to calm, his disciples didn't have to take it "on faith" that the waters would calm -- they did calm.

  The disciples and others are said to have witnessed Jesus perform miracle after miracle. They weren't asked to take anything he said on faith. Jesus didn't have to convince his followers through argument or threats. He put his money where his mouth was and proved by physical demonstrations (as opposed to modern 'insight' or 'revelation') that he could be believed.

  But here we are, 2000 years later, and we're expected to make that tiresome "leap of faith" and swallow whole a bunch of crap that nobody can prove! Why are we less deserving than first-century audiences? If someone wants me to believe in something, they darn well better prove it to me. All I see is shabby, hand-me-down faith.

  So far, I've seen or heard nothing that even comes close to convincing me that Jesus, God, and the Bible as the word of God, are real or true.
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  Honest Reponse needed

  by His Excellency in

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  attraction isn't the glue that holds couples together, and there have even been scientific polls and studies taken on this.

  that initial attraction *typically* doesn't last more than a few months.

  though attraction keeps you interested long enough to get to know someone and build a relationship with him/her.. but my question is this, how long does the attraction lasts in new couples, before they get bored with each-other?..

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  Good one, prologos! Another similar idea from "The Big Bang Theory":

  "[My wife] doesn't care what gets my engine running as long as I park it in the right garage."
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  WTS Suggestion Box (to give back for all the things the WT has done for us)

  by return of parakeet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes i think we're too hard on the wts and the dubs.

  a dub's life, after all, is not an easy one: minimal formal education, low-paying jobs, incessant demands on their time for meetings, field service, shunning, regular beatings for their children, etc.. even the wts itself is not immune.

  think of all the hard work the gb must do to keep their "new light" up-to-date without making the old light look like a pack of lies.

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  Newly Enlightened: "I want to thank them for all the years of hilarity and amusement that the Brothers Larry, Curly & Moe Elders have entertained us with."

  Another good idea for the GB! Use humor to teach the Truth. A spoonful of sugar will help get some of the more unpalatable doctrines down those dubs' gullets.

  Create some videos to be shown at KHs that depict, for example, dubs dancing a funny jig as the world comes to an end. You may need some special effects to create an authentic Armageddon scene -- refer to those zany illustrations you paste on your mags of buildings crumbling and children screaming -- that's always a hoot.

  WTS, bookmark this thread to remind you to check for Newly Enlightened's soon-to-be-released Youtube entertainment.
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  WTS Suggestion Box (to give back for all the things the WT has done for us)

  by return of parakeet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes i think we're too hard on the wts and the dubs.

  a dub's life, after all, is not an easy one: minimal formal education, low-paying jobs, incessant demands on their time for meetings, field service, shunning, regular beatings for their children, etc.. even the wts itself is not immune.

  think of all the hard work the gb must do to keep their "new light" up-to-date without making the old light look like a pack of lies.

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  zed: "New Light Flash cards!"

  "I the WTS, right or wrong." "The FDS is the GB; The GB is the FDS." Repeat until it's automatic, like a robot.

  cobaltcupcake: " Energy-saving, low-voltage nu lite. Recycling - for doctrine flip-flops. Heart-healthy spiritual food. Oh wait, that can't be done. JWs don't acknowledge their heart - it's treacherous. "

  The new "green" WTS getting started on doing their part to make earth a paradise. Love it.

  Fernando: "A course and videos on how to become a cult leader (member of the ruling religious clergy class) could take some of the burden off the Watchtower Sanhedrin (GB) and Pharisees ("elders")."

  Perfect! A Power-Point presentation with bullet points would do the trick: (1) How to give a public talk and sound like you really mean it. (2) How to conduct a kangaroo court Judicial Committee hearing. (3) How to sidestep, confuse and/or threaten r&f dubs when they ask insightful but embarrassing (to the WTS) questions. (4) Grape or cherry Kool-Aid?
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  Honest Reponse needed

  by His Excellency in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  attraction isn't the glue that holds couples together, and there have even been scientific polls and studies taken on this.

  that initial attraction *typically* doesn't last more than a few months.

  though attraction keeps you interested long enough to get to know someone and build a relationship with him/her.. but my question is this, how long does the attraction lasts in new couples, before they get bored with each-other?..

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  okage: " Five years into my relationship with my wife, I was still opening the car door for her and holding her hand in public. "

  Oh dear. On Minimus' thread, you said you come to this site for the, I think it was, "... hot and cold running chicks on tap. .."

  Actually, I've never minded my husband looking at the "chicks" as long as his tongue wasn't hanging out, like this -- . Married 41 years. The initial passion fades over the years but never entirely goes away, if you work at it.
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  Why Do You Come To This Site?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i believe that this site, jwn, serves many purposes.

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  some are here almost, out of need.. others are here because they want to know the latest in watchtower world.. still others come here for the entertainment.. why do you frequent this place?

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  Minimus, I come here just to see what your daily question will be. BTW, have you ever repeated the same question(s)?

  TAI: "Where else can I go and call the JW religion a cult?"

  Good one. Without this site we would be lost sheep indeed.
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  Why did you stop believing in God?

  by The Quiet One in

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  It was a cascade effect, as I began to realize the WTS was a bag of crappy lies (not even good lies; just crap):

  1. Blood doctrine was crap (1976).

  2. WTS and dubs were crap (1976).

  3. Bible and concept of a personal god were crap (1977).

  4. Developed an exit strategy (1977-1979).

  5. Left the dubs (1979).

  6. Examined other faiths to see if they were crap (1979 - 1999). They were.

  7. Atheist (1977 to present).
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  WTS Suggestion Box (to give back for all the things the WT has done for us)

  by return of parakeet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes i think we're too hard on the wts and the dubs.

  a dub's life, after all, is not an easy one: minimal formal education, low-paying jobs, incessant demands on their time for meetings, field service, shunning, regular beatings for their children, etc.. even the wts itself is not immune.

  think of all the hard work the gb must do to keep their "new light" up-to-date without making the old light look like a pack of lies.

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  Sometimes I think we're too hard on the WTS and the dubs. A dub's life, after all, is not an easy one: minimal formal education, low-paying jobs, incessant demands on their time for meetings, field service, shunning, regular beatings for their children, etc.

  Even the WTS itself is not immune. Think of all the hard work the GB must do to keep their "new light" up-to-date without making the old light look like a pack of lies. And then they have to contend with keeping their followers from viewing all the opposition on this site. It must be tough.

  It's time to give back a little for all the WTS has done for us. Only genuinely helpful suggestions are allowed. No "tear-down-the-Brooklyn-Headquarters" or "they-must-apologize" kind of thing.

  Here are two suggestions to start off:

  1. The WTS ought to keep templates for all the subjects dubs give talks about, sort of like "Cliffs Notes for Dubs" or "The Idiot's Guide to KH Talks." For example, the talk given about bad associations hasn't changed since God invented dirt. All the WTS has to do is dust one off now and then, make a few changes to accommodate "new light," and it's ready to go. What a time-saver that would be for elders trying to compose a talk from scratch about the same old crap! The time saved could be used for field service and stalking potential apostates.

  2. There's been some discussion about the WTS coming out with a new Bible translation soon. I suggest that it and any future books be bound in loose-leaf binders. That way, whenever an uncomfortable fact comes along that must be explained and incorporated into their publications as "new light," new (and truthful) pages can be sent to dubs (for a fee) to replace the defective pages. This would also eliminate the need for revisionist tactics. The Truth can be edited as needed. No embarrassing old publications being passed around on the sly at book studies.

  WTS, pay attention! Here's the place to find some helpful and time-saving tips. We apostates aren't ALL evil. Just mostly evil.
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  How IGNORANT can you be and still be a Jehovah's Witness in GOOD standing?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i have said many times, i did not really study jw teachings in depth until i went to prison.. i had a period from 1959 to 1967 when i---sort of----could explain things to a shallow depth.

  once i entered that profound place in my head (while in federal prison) when everything got serious.....i entered a secret room, so to speak, where.

  all the mysteries were hidden!.

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  "How IGNORANT can you be and still be a Jehovah's Witness in GOOD standing?"

  As ignorant as you need to be, which in the case of dubs, is profoundly ignorant.

  I remember, when I was a profoundly ignorant, reluctant teenage dub, not wanting to know the scriptures behind the dub doctrines. All I cared about was trying to get out of going to meetings and field service. I almost never read the WT, even when I offered it to the public (when I failed to weasel out of FD).
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  Shaking it off...with music

  by freeflyingfaerie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just another way to give the finger to the religion, so to speak.... sometimes i just feel about like this~.

  p!nk, so what!.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fjffzqtlwrq&list=pl744ced5db3f47863.

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  Hasa Diga Eebowai!

  This one literally gives the finger to God.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm6MowcttHc